How about we put a limit on bumping threads?

[many]

We need to put a limit on bumping threads in the FS section. It gets annoying when somebody crappy parts are always bumped.
I really don't mind the the slight bumping when there's some general interest....but if there's has been no takers or some sort of interest what so ever after bumping it an 11th time I think it's a sign.
A big SIGN that maybe it's time to lower your price, get them off the market or simply dump them in the trash.

Now this is an example, so to the OP don't get but hurt please:
http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=341293
and another one:
http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=341292

Something in the lines of :
-a 10 times max bump with a week in between.
- an expiration date or if it reaches 1000 views and you haven't sold it then it's done/closed.
-or Maybe a warning that he needs to hurry things up!

Houston, I think we got a problem!

[boothten]

They aren't your parts to sell though, who are we to say that if after you've bumped your own thread trying to sell parts you have no need for anymore that you should just trash it?
That's retarded. Just ignore the thread, seriously.
If anything, I say nc.org implements an ignore feature for threads. Sort of like how you can ignore a member so you don't see their posts.
Just, if you ignore a thread, it won't show up on the thread list page.

[elbaldwino]

I bumped my tails quite a bit and now they are pending. I really don't see this as being an issue.

insert witty comment here

[CelicaBigginer]

I was going over the rules, states that a thread should only be bumped once a day. Im guilty of bumping my threads twice a day. I guess no more.

[Jaxn81]

Especially for me, bc I've got a lot of things to buy but don't have the money to buy it all at once. So it helps when I see something bumped that I may have missed going through all the posts.

[CelicaBigginer]

Pretty much the guy in the links above was bumping multiple times within a few hours, or multiple times in the same hour.

[boothten]

Originally Posted by CelicaBigginer

Pretty much the guy in the links above was bumping multiple times within a few hours, or multiple times in the same hour.

Now THAT'S a problem. When its continuous bumping over that short a time period, then yeah.

[many]

Then how about bumping the thread only if it is on the second page and only a week at a time.

Originally Posted by boothten

If anything, I say nc.org implements an ignore feature for threads. Sort of like how you can ignore a member so you don't see their posts.
Just, if you ignore a thread, it won't show up on the thread list page.

That is actually a great Idea....!

[brianv3ntura]

I'm okay with bumping once a day. Its in the rules. Bumping once a week or till its on the second page may make potential buyers forget abt the thread.

[meow_mix]

LOL, first link OP shut you down...

[many]

Here is an Idea that is used on the Supra Forums:

11.You can bump your thread every 3(three) days but no more that 15 times total. Bumping the thread more than that will have you either temp banned for a few days and/or your post deleted. NOTE: Remarks such as ,all prices reduced,all prices updated, pm sent ,new pics up ,new items added ,emailed you back, ect. Count as bumps...(be fair and give others a chance to sell there items.)
replys to post can be made via PM to the member if needed so responding to post count as bumps as well.
Temp banning will be enforced on this with out warning.

Something else that might be of interest:

13.If you have a bad Buyer / Seller Ratings you will NOT be allowed to post in the For Sale area till the problem is resolved by both parties.

[lamboceliGTS]

Who cares?

[many]

Originally Posted by brianv3ntura

I'm okay with bumping once a day.

I really think it's annoying....IMO.

Originally Posted by meow_mix

LOL, first link OP shut you down..

I know ...and his thread is a "Feeler".....nobody has posted an interest on it!
Now I don't want to debate his asking price or why nobody has jumped at it. I was just being honest on his thread.

[meow_mix]

Originally Posted by many

I know ...and his thread is a "Feeler".....nobody has posted an interest on it!
Now I don't want to debate his asking price or why nobody has jumped at it. I was just being honest on his thread.

HAha, thought your post was pretty funny... as was his response. All-in-all, it provided some good laughs.

[many]

Originally Posted by lamboceliGTS

Who cares?

i guess if i asked for your opinion i would give it to you...

[boothten]

Originally Posted by many

Something else that might be of interest:

That's already enforced.

[FrostsCelicaGTS]

I dont see a problem with it. Problem is with the people that constantly sell stuff on the forum. If your selling that much constantly on a regular basis you should have a vendor fee.

[brianv3ntura]

One thing I do have a problem with is people posting new threads for each item. Its as if they couldn't post the items in a single thread on the first post

[CelicaBigginer]

That is one annoying thing, for example the vendors. They have about 5 different posts selling different items then go in and bump all of them at the same time. For vendors I kinda understand the multiple posts but for everyone else just make one thread and sell in one thread, maybe ask a mod to add an Item to an already open thread.

[Omnious]

Just to let everyone know, I've been lurking this thread and taking notes.
Some ideas are great, others are not really feasible.

I'm sorry if some of you think the classifieds are "out of shape". For my part, I try my best to keep everything in line and make the experience easy for everyone (seller and buyer).

But when we start adding more rules, it will make things a lot more complicated for sellers most of the time, and consequently, we will have more people who would have to be brought back in line.

The system, as it stands now, works pretty well IMHO. Rarely do we get endless bumps or feeler threads that go no where. So while the occasional one might be annoying, it's not that big of a deal.

The "post pictures with your username" rule has been widely accepted and I'm glad to see that regular members are also stepping in to remind newbies of this priority.
As long as they don't get pushy, it's A-OK with me. I like seeing members dedicated to protecting others from scammers and making this community gel together.


There are some suggestions though that I feel do need to be addressed. Regular part-out vendors, who clearly make it a business in buying cars solely to part them out, should contribute, IMO, to the community. Not necessarily a full vendor's fee, but some percentage of that. In return, I'm sure Larry could dedicate a small area of the sponsors page to show their usernames in particular, so people looking for lots of parts can easily find their threads in the classifieds.


Hey, this is the Web Site Discussion page, so all suggestions are welcome. Get it coming guys and gals.

[many]

Originally Posted by FrostsCelicaGTS

If your selling that much constantly on a regular basis you should have a vendor fee.

Amen!

[GSBoek]

Originally Posted by Omnious

There are some suggestions though that I feel do need to be addressed. Regular part-out vendors, who clearly make it a business in buying cars solely to part them out, should contribute, IMO, to the community. Not necessarily a full vendor's fee, but some percentage of that.

It is a sentiment I share to. We would need to discuss this thoroughly though, there are many gray areas that would need to be addressed.

[Muirner]

The two threads you linked to each had 13 bumps... Okay semi annoying, but what about this thread:

http://www.newcelica.org/forums/show...ght=LSD&page=2

It has 52 or 53 bumps. This is a better example. It's been for sale for over a year and a half, with regular bumps... As you can see I said the same thing in the thread you did here Many.

But i'm kind of with Booth, while we need some rules on bumping, you cant say shut the sale down, and trash the items.

[boothten]

Originally Posted by FrostsCelicaGTS

If your selling that much constantly on a regular basis you should have a vendor fee.

Originally Posted by Omnious

Regular part-out vendors, who clearly make it a business in buying cars solely to part them out, should contribute, IMO, to the community. Not necessarily a full vendor's fee, but some percentage of that.

[AFMichael]

Originally Posted by many

Here is an Idea that is used on the Supra Forums:

While this is a good idea, it would require the mods more much more work to keep up with the tally of thread bumps.

[Omnious]

Originally Posted by AFMichael

While this is a good idea, it would require the mods more much more work to keep up with the tally of thread bumps.

Correct.

Originally Posted by GSBoek

We would need to discuss this thoroughly though, there are many gray areas that would need to be addressed.

I agree. How regularly they sell, what volume, gross income... all that would have to come into consideration and might lead to some contention from some of our regulars. It's a tricky issue, but should be addressed.

[many]

Quote:
Originally Posted by lamboceliGTS
Who cares?

Originally Posted by many

i guess if i asked for your opinion i would give it to you...

Nobody got my trolling....

[2KGTrd]

i think there should be a section for interest only.

Its lame to have it in the fs section because nothings for sale.
I personally dont understand the point of an interest thread. Put it up for sale and if ppl want it they will buy it. dont waste time with oh well i like this but idk bullshit.


I also think it should be a rule that sellers must post a picture thats in focus. there's a few threads where you cant even tell the quality of the item because the picture is shitty and blurry as fuck. might as well not even post a picture to begin with.

and is there a way to moved closed threads out of page one?

[Zero]

Originally Posted by 2KGTrd

and is there a way to moved closed threads out of page one?

nope. Unless Jack proposes to the admins that there should be a hidden section of the classifieds forum where we archive closed threads.
to possibly remove a closed thread from the first page would mean deleting any posts following the OP's. deleting posts may take away from a possible fraud transaction. we can do soft-deletes, but i wouldn't want to tamper with that.

[AFMichael]

There is an mod that allows the OP to mark a thread as sold. This would auto-close the thread and mark it with the prefix [Sold]. Additionally, they can mark it as unsold and would reopen the thread. Only feasible option but wouldn't move the thread elsewhere.

[Omnious]

Originally Posted by Zero

Unless Jack proposes to the admins that there should be a hidden section of the classifieds forum where we archive closed threads.

Originally Posted by AFMichael

There is an mod that allows the OP to mark a thread as sold. This would auto-close the thread and mark it with the prefix [Sold]. Additionally, they can mark it as unsold and would reopen the thread. Only feasible option but wouldn't move the thread elsewhere.

I don't think that's necessary. Whenever the items advertised in a classifieds thread are sold, I close the thread and let it gradually fall behind. This enables people to still search and find old threads, in which they cannot post anymore, but at least they can view them to see how much things sold for, or how many other buyers were interested in the same item, etc, etc...

[2KGTrd]

Originally Posted by Zero

Unless Jack proposes to the admins that there should be a hidden section of the classifieds forum where we archive closed threads.

this is a good idea because then you dont even have to close it you can just hide the thread and ppl wont be able to find it

[Omnious]

Originally Posted by 2KGTrd

this is a good idea because then you dont even have to close it you can just hide the thread and ppl wont be able to find it

How about you read my previous post...

[2KGTrd]

i was referring to when ppl dont have pictures but i see where you're coming from.
is there a way the forum will require the op to have pictures otherwise it wont post the thread?

[Omnious]

Originally Posted by 2KGTrd

is there a way the forum will require the op to have pictures otherwise it wont post the thread?

To my knowledge, not in the present forum format. Larry might have to drastically change the way the forum works for that requirement to be imposed.

If we had 50 new threads every day, then it might be advisable to find other means, but we barely get 10 new ones on busy days, so it is entirely manageable this way.

[CelicaBigginer]

We could do a set up like spyder chat, inorder to submit a thread for sale, it needs to be approved by admin first, that way pictures with screen names are provided before the thread is opened

[AFMichael]

Originally Posted by 2KGTrd

i was referring to when ppl dont have pictures but i see where you're coming from.
is there a way the forum will require the op to have pictures otherwise it wont post the thread?

This would be nice but one problem is that some add pictures via attachments and others use the IMG bbcode. There isn't a mod that will check whether one of these were used. Manual moderating is the only option.

[NoRulzAt140 Mph]

Originally Posted by boothten

They aren't your parts to sell though, who are we to say that if after you've bumped your own thread trying to sell parts you have no need for anymore that you should just trash it?
That's retarded. Just ignore the thread, seriously.
If anything, I say nc.org implements an ignore feature for threads. Sort of like how you can ignore a member so you don't see their posts.
Just, if you ignore a thread, it won't show up on the thread list page.

They are used parts for an old car. They take time to sell. What if no one needs the part yet?

For sale posts should just not count to your post count except the initial posting. That helps a bit.

[NoRulzAt140 Mph]

Originally Posted by CelicaBigginer

We could do a set up like spyder chat, inorder to submit a thread for sale, it needs to be approved by admin first, that way pictures with screen names are provided before the thread is opened

This is also a good idea. In other forums we must post a paper with the s/n next to EACH picture no matter how many angles.

[boothten]

Originally Posted by 2KGTrd

and is there a way to moved closed threads out of page one?

This really isn't necessary, at all.
I don't know how you guys browse the for sale section, but I always check the last few posts (if the thread hasn't already been closed due to all parts selling) first to see whether the OP has stated he sold all parts.
It's not that difficult, you'd be lazy to say this is an inconvenience.

A lot of the "issues" people are saying should be fixed in this thread are personal preferences that don't necessarily pertain to the masses.
It'd be like the OT regulars saying to re-arrange the index so that OT is on the top because it would be faster to get to it.

[CelicaBigginer]

Originally Posted by NoRulzAt140 Mph

Quote:
Originally Posted by CelicaBigginer
We could do a set up like spyder chat, inorder to submit a thread for sale, it needs to be approved by admin first, that way pictures with screen names are provided before the thread is opened
This is also a good idea. In other forums we must post a paper with the s/n next to EACH picture no matter how many angles.

The problem with the spyderchat way is that if there aren't any mods trolling the site, it can take a few days to get a thread up. Shouldn't really be a problem here since somewhere along the lines there is a mod. Also to help with the name/picture thing, how about if you hit the new thread icon in fs the next screen that pulls up with something in big red letters saying MUST POST SCREEN NAME WITH PICTURES. Should prevent the threads being submitted in the first place.

[AFMichael]

What you all do not seem to understand is that there isn't a mod that can check a picture for the username/nc.org requirements. It's simply impossible. Even if you were to have a message popup after every new thread in that section, it would annoy a majority of the members especially if they have already included the required information in their pictures.

In other words, the system does not need to be changed...period.

[Omnious]

Originally Posted by AFMichael

In other words, the system does not need to be changed...period.

Ding ding ding! We have a winner! (for the whole picture with username issue)

[Joey03_VVT-I]

Bump

[narly charley]

I didn't feel like reading into this thread, but here are my two pennies worth...

I think bumping something every 24 hours is okay, no matter what it is... I've had stuff on here that I didn't think would sell and I kept bumping it. People are always trolling through the FS section, and they may only have like three posts, but they want that part.

If you want to sell stuff, you have to be consistent, it won't sell if people don't know (see) it's for sale.

[Zero]

^dude, fix your sig. your one post takes up the entire screen.

[Omnious]

Originally Posted by Zero

^dude, fix your sig. your one post takes up the entire screen.

Either choose the picture or the quotes. Not both.

[man12345678912]

Originally Posted by boothten

If anything, I say nc.org implements an ignore feature for threads. Sort of like how you can ignore a member so you don't see their posts.

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