to beat a 350

gts04celi · 12-23-2006, 02:34 PM

i have an 04 gts 6spd with i/e/ss/headers r coming and so is a fidanza flywheel and stage 1 clutch .. i also plan on gettin a zex wet nitrous sytem most liekly a 55 shot with those mods does neone kno my chances against my friends 350z wit intake and exhaust btw those things r fast as hell he pulls like crazy top end so even if i can keep up id b happy just lookin for some input thnx..

cool2miketlu · 12-23-2006, 03:25 PM

nitrous added maybe. Without it don't bother.
Should consider getting LSD as well.

gts04celi · 12-23-2006, 04:09 PM

yea w/o the nitrous i deff kno im done but wit the 55 or maybe up it to 75 for that race then i think it will b close ya i was lookin at the lsd cuz i lose traction as it is now ican only imagine after the nitrous and clutch

VisshusGTS · 12-23-2006, 04:14 PM

make sure you get some good vid, that is going to be one hell of a race to watch!
good luck with the run...z's are strong as hell!

cool2miketlu · 12-23-2006, 04:30 PM

Or you can go turbo and beat him every day instead of only when your bottle is full...

Frozentide · 12-23-2006, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cool2miketlu

Or you can go turbo and beat him every day instead of only when your bottle is full...

I agree go turbo and then you'll be good to go all day long!!

CEGONAX-MAN · 12-23-2006, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frozentide

I agree go turbo and then you'll be good to go all day long!!

Make sure you have his name on your bottle's.

gts04celi · 12-23-2006, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frozentide

I agree go turbo and then you'll be good to go all day long!!

i been readin threads all day long bout the debates between nitrous and turbo and for my day to day needs the nitrous is jus a better route for me although i agree overall a turbo would b better but for me i'd rather go nitrous either way this is gunna b a close race

CEGONAX-MAN · 12-23-2006, 06:26 PM

Good luck on the race bro. Hope you feel better afterward's.

**Smaay** · 12-23-2006, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gts04celi

i been readin threads all day long bout the debates between nitrous and turbo and for my day to day needs the nitrous is jus a better route for me although i agree overall a turbo would b better but for me i'd rather go nitrous either way this is gunna b a close race

nitrous is also a cheaper route. Turbo kits are expensive...i think with good driving skills and the 55 shot, you have a chance..

verbal272 · 12-23-2006, 07:42 PM

it depends what you mean by expensive and cheap, are you talking about startup cost, or long term 1-2 years.

If you have a heavy foot and an itchy trigger finger, you can blow a tank of NOS like nothing, it may be cheaper to get it in the first place, but later on the refill costs will probably kill you.

G-Money · 12-23-2006, 07:48 PM

Nitrous is like a really hot girl with STD's, you wanna hit it but yor afraid of the consequences.

TRD_Celica00 · 12-23-2006, 07:58 PM

ive been seeing alot of cheap turbo's floating around the B/S/T forums

reguile · 12-23-2006, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-Money

Nitrous is like a really hot girl with STD's, you wanna hit it but yor afraid of the consequences.

Yeeeeeaaaaaaaaaa....ok.

SickCelica696 · 12-23-2006, 08:15 PM

04' i dunno, 01' maybe

VisshusGTS · 12-24-2006, 12:53 AM

I'll tell ya what...let me get all my toys on the car, and I will let you take your first shot at a Z against a girl....

I'll let you pick the race, roll or dig, track, street, you name it.

R K e 1 C A · 12-24-2006, 01:01 AM

what an offer

JOHN_B · 12-24-2006, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gts04celi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frozentide

I agree go turbo and then you'll be good to go all day long!!

i been readin threads all day long bout the debates between nitrous and turbo and for my day to day needs the nitrous is jus a better route for me although i agree overall a turbo would b better but for me i'd rather go nitrous either way this is gunna b a close race

Get a SC or Nitrous. It is cheaper than turbo in the long run.

gts04celi · 12-24-2006, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VisshusGTS

I'll tell ya what...let me get all my toys on the car, and I will let you take your first shot at a Z against a girl....

I'll let you pick the race, roll or dig, track, street, you name it.

ha if this is refering to me then lemme bump up the shot to 75 once its on then u can come up to ny and we'll go wont b the first time i lost to a girl (sum girl handed me wit an sti)

VisshusGTS · 12-24-2006, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gts04celi

ha if this is refering to me then lemme bump up the shot to 75 once its on then u can come up to ny and we'll go wont b the first time i lost to a girl (sum girl handed me wit an sti)

seriously think about this....i got what i wanted for christmas...and it says VORTECH on the box....

its going to place me over 400rwhp...

silver21 · 12-24-2006, 01:46 AM

send it back and get a box that says GARRETT....

VisshusGTS · 12-24-2006, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver21

send it back and get a box that says GARRETT....

what and hurt santas aka dad's feelings, no way uh uh, had to talk him into it for about 4 months lol

i like garret...but i am not about to complain about a freebie...

SocalTRDgt · 12-24-2006, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VisshusGTS

I'll tell ya what...let me get all my toys on the car, and I will let you take your first shot at a Z against a girl....

I'll let you pick the race, roll or dig, track, street, you name it.

Your so nice lol

Swing Fixer · 12-24-2006, 05:56 AM

U said you are running against a friend's Z that only has intake and exhaust.....run your nitrous and get a PFC with Boosted's harness that we are working on. With a good tune you should definitely be good to go.

Celicasaur · 12-24-2006, 08:13 AM

gts04celi...

i had a race with a 350z a few weeks ago. 3 races in a row. i used my 50shot, of course.

he got pwned each time. yes they are very quick. but with a good nitrous set up at the correct bottle pressure and jetting, you will burn the Z like a whore.

my 2p.

lVlemphizStylez · 12-24-2006, 08:20 AM

unless of course the Z driver knows how to drive...fully bolt on Z...low 13's high 12's from what I've seen...Hell Vishus only has like an intake and exhaust and is capable of low 13's on street tires (based on her timeslip she posted, 1.9 60ft 103-104 traps)

VisshusGTS · 12-24-2006, 09:44 AM

i also have an angled plenum spacer and its not exhaust actually...its test pipes and a custom y pipe on stock exhaust....

ps...that time slip was on MT dr's

Memphis is right, alot of this depends on the drivers ability...you can be a sucky driver and spray yourself into oblivion and be up against a driver that knows their car, the cars limits, and know how to bend the limits without breaking them and you are going to be suprised what a car can do...
I AM NOT CELICA BASHING... not everyone dives their car the same...and alot of seat time makes a driver better in his car. I lived at the drag strip this summer. Every chance I got I was there. I pulled some good times, but I also have screwed up and got some really crappy times. But I stuck with it and got better at it.

When I first got the car I was on the interstates at 1~2 am just testing myself and the limits of the car, gradually getting to where I was comfortable... Will I do it again? Everytime I buy a car I will do this.

Well, anyway...MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY NEW YEAR! I <3 U GUYS!
~V

lVlemphizStylez · 12-24-2006, 10:47 AM

Yea I know your low 13 was on DR's but the 60ft you pulled is possible on Street tires in a RWD car..1.9 is doable without DR's

Celicasaur · 12-25-2006, 11:02 AM

impressive

mind u, at the moment its fair to assume a Z is gonna be bone stock normally when u encounter one purely because its so new. well thats the case over here anyway

hombredelassrta · 12-26-2006, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SickCelica696

04' i dunno, 01' maybe

dont see the logic. i dont think the dbw would slow him down. the 04 has same rev limit as 00-01. only the 02 and 05 have the lower one

Beast · 12-26-2006, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gts04celi

does neone kno my chances against my friends 350z

gnope. Im wush i kold halp u.

nread · 12-26-2006, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VisshusGTS

seriously think about this....i got what i wanted for christmas...and it says VORTECH on the box....

its going to place me over 400rwhp...

I'm a member at a few of the Z boards, I used to have a Z but I traded it in for a Rav4 and a son. Fair trade, depending on the day

Anywho, have fun with the S/C. Those vortechs are pretty straight forward install, and make the Z downright vicious. I've seen some pretty mean Vortech Z's at the meets. Congrats. I assume you're getting it professionally tuned? Don't rely on the OEM ECU because it's not going to account for your other mods, and you'll just be robbing yourself of power.

VisshusGTS · 12-27-2006, 07:04 AM

Yeah we are taking it to Z1 to get it tuned on the dyno and hopefully that will help it out some.

A friend of ours has one on an automatic and it was a low 12 second car. I was impressed to say the least.

Hopefully the car will be vicious...im tired of just being evil, lol

I hope yall all had a merry christmas!

RTZCeli · 12-27-2006, 10:45 AM

R u kidding me? Much respect if you take him out maan... I would love to have a copy of this if there's anyone recording it.

youngxlos · 12-27-2006, 10:53 AM

i didn't read the hole thread, but on a 00 or 01 model with bolts on, we can beat or be even with 350z. here are some videos of Dan
his mods are
Intake, header, exhaust, power fc, and ported throttle body and port match manifold.

Click here to see Video

lVlemphizStylez · 12-27-2006, 11:27 AM

not to take your thunder dude..but the red Z he ran in the beginning (which is all I watched before i shut down the video)...Trapped 100 (trap of a stock Z about) and he trapped 99..Not only does he have a higher trap than the GTS, but if he knew how to drive the damn thing he would have ran anywhere from 13.8-13.6 second quarter mile with that trap on RWD..More importantly, the topic at hand is about a LESS modified 04 GTS (sans PFC and DR's) and a MORE modified 350z (not stock, but I/E)...needless to say what this outcome would be

nread · 12-27-2006, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by youngxlos

i didn't read the hole thread, but on a 00 or 01 model with bolts on, we can beat or be even with 350z. here are some videos of Dan
his mods are
Intake, header, exhaust, power fc, and ported throttle body and port match manifold.

Click here to see Video

That was a bad driver in the red Z. The celica, although a decent car, isn't in the same leaue as the 350Z, that's all there is to it. I saw a totally stock Z run the 1/4 at 13.67 last year... It takes a fully bolted celi (cams and headwork included) on DR's to get there.

DYI01 · 01-01-2007, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nread

That was a bad driver in the red Z. The celica, although a decent car, isn't in the same leaue as the 350Z, that's all there is to it. I saw a totally stock Z run the 1/4 at 13.67 last year... It takes a fully bolted celi (cams and headwork included) on DR's to get there.

Yea they arent in the same league, the Z has 100 more HP at the crank and over 150 more ft. lbs of TQ. There is actually a celica that has hit 13.7's without cams or headwork. I am not knocking you, but if you knew little more about the 2zz aftermarket you would know that cams have just recently come out. With not many people owning them, or even testing them yet, in my mind are not even proven to work well yet.

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12-23-2006, 02:34 PM	#1
gts04celi Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: new york Posts: 82 iTrader: (0)	to beat a 350 i have an 04 gts 6spd with i/e/ss/headers r coming and so is a fidanza flywheel and stage 1 clutch .. i also plan on gettin a zex wet nitrous sytem most liekly a 55 shot with those mods does neone kno my chances against my friends 350z wit intake and exhaust btw those things r fast as hell he pulls like crazy top end so even if i can keep up id b happy just lookin for some input thnx.. __________________ 04 gts 6spd, aem cai, greddy evo2 exhaust,twm ss, veilside body kit, wings west wing, 18" wheels

12-23-2006, 03:25 PM	#2
cool2miketlu Boosted Duo!! Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 7,546 iTrader: (3)	nitrous added maybe. Without it don't bother. Should consider getting LSD as well. __________________ Kept up the philosophy of nice balance between Aesthetic and Power mods Sold the 2000 Black Veilside GT-Turbo + 1991 Panda MR2 turbo now drives 2007 Subaru Impreza

12-23-2006, 04:09 PM	#3
gts04celi Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: new york Posts: 82 iTrader: (0)	yea w/o the nitrous i deff kno im done but wit the 55 or maybe up it to 75 for that race then i think it will b close ya i was lookin at the lsd cuz i lose traction as it is now ican only imagine after the nitrous and clutch __________________ 04 gts 6spd, aem cai, greddy evo2 exhaust,twm ss, veilside body kit, wings west wing, 18" wheels

12-23-2006, 04:14 PM	#4
VisshusGTS Just a girl.... Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Anniston, Alabama Posts: 111 iTrader: (0)	make sure you get some good vid, that is going to be one hell of a race to watch! good luck with the run...z's are strong as hell! __________________

12-23-2006, 04:30 PM	#5
cool2miketlu Boosted Duo!! Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 7,546 iTrader: (3)	Or you can go turbo and beat him every day instead of only when your bottle is full... __________________ Kept up the philosophy of nice balance between Aesthetic and Power mods Sold the 2000 Black Veilside GT-Turbo + 1991 Panda MR2 turbo now drives 2007 Subaru Impreza

12-23-2006, 06:26 PM	#9
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VisshusGTS Just a girl.... Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Anniston, Alabama Posts: 111 iTrader: (0)	I'll tell ya what...let me get all my toys on the car, and I will let you take your first shot at a Z against a girl.... I'll let you pick the race, roll or dig, track, street, you name it. __________________

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12-24-2006, 08:13 AM	#25
Celicasaur 213WHP N/A 2zz Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: London Posts: 4,250 iTrader: (20)	gts04celi... i had a race with a 350z a few weeks ago. 3 races in a row. i used my 50shot, of course. he got pwned each time. yes they are very quick. but with a good nitrous set up at the correct bottle pressure and jetting, you will burn the Z like a whore. my 2p. __________________ Need Denso 440cc injectors for your N/A beast? I'm your man. Celicasaur wishlist for 2010: Boosted2.0 Race IM By a new damn front lip! C-One short ratio gears Direct-Port Nitrous - 100 shot Goals for 2010: 225whp N/A - 400whp with nitrous

12-24-2006, 08:20 AM	#26
lVlemphizStylez Retired... Join Date: May 2006 Location: Miami/Tallahassee, FL Posts: 6,702 iTrader: (0)	unless of course the Z driver knows how to drive...fully bolt on Z...low 13's high 12's from what I've seen...Hell Vishus only has like an intake and exhaust and is capable of low 13's on street tires (based on her timeslip she posted, 1.9 60ft 103-104 traps) __________________ 1998 LS Integra - b18c swap, b16 transmission, CTR cams, milled head, Crome Pro, SC61, Revhard Mani, Johnny Racecar FMIC, walbro, RC 650's, self tuned...STOLEN!! = ( 2003 Neon SRT4 - AGP Zeta 3.0, DiabloSport Predator, 650cc's, home made return line, walbro, MPx FMIC, 5 layer headgasket, brian crower 2mm+ valves, self tuned...hmm soon to be corn fed. Let's see how long it lasts

12-24-2006, 09:44 AM	#27
VisshusGTS Just a girl.... Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Anniston, Alabama Posts: 111 iTrader: (0)	i also have an angled plenum spacer and its not exhaust actually...its test pipes and a custom y pipe on stock exhaust.... ps...that time slip was on MT dr's Memphis is right, alot of this depends on the drivers ability...you can be a sucky driver and spray yourself into oblivion and be up against a driver that knows their car, the cars limits, and know how to bend the limits without breaking them and you are going to be suprised what a car can do... I AM NOT CELICA BASHING... not everyone dives their car the same...and alot of seat time makes a driver better in his car. I lived at the drag strip this summer. Every chance I got I was there. I pulled some good times, but I also have screwed up and got some really crappy times. But I stuck with it and got better at it. When I first got the car I was on the interstates at 1~2 am just testing myself and the limits of the car, gradually getting to where I was comfortable... Will I do it again? Everytime I buy a car I will do this. Well, anyway...MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY NEW YEAR! I <3 U GUYS! ~V __________________ Last edited by VisshusGTS : 12-24-2006 at 09:58 AM.

12-24-2006, 10:47 AM	#28
lVlemphizStylez Retired... Join Date: May 2006 Location: Miami/Tallahassee, FL Posts: 6,702 iTrader: (0)	Yea I know your low 13 was on DR's but the 60ft you pulled is possible on Street tires in a RWD car..1.9 is doable without DR's __________________ 1998 LS Integra - b18c swap, b16 transmission, CTR cams, milled head, Crome Pro, SC61, Revhard Mani, Johnny Racecar FMIC, walbro, RC 650's, self tuned...STOLEN!! = ( 2003 Neon SRT4 - AGP Zeta 3.0, DiabloSport Predator, 650cc's, home made return line, walbro, MPx FMIC, 5 layer headgasket, brian crower 2mm+ valves, self tuned...hmm soon to be corn fed. Let's see how long it lasts

12-25-2006, 11:02 AM	#29
Celicasaur 213WHP N/A 2zz Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: London Posts: 4,250 iTrader: (20)	impressive mind u, at the moment its fair to assume a Z is gonna be bone stock normally when u encounter one purely because its so new. well thats the case over here anyway __________________ Need Denso 440cc injectors for your N/A beast? I'm your man. Celicasaur wishlist for 2010: Boosted2.0 Race IM By a new damn front lip! C-One short ratio gears Direct-Port Nitrous - 100 shot Goals for 2010: 225whp N/A - 400whp with nitrous

12-27-2006, 07:04 AM	#33
VisshusGTS Just a girl.... Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Anniston, Alabama Posts: 111 iTrader: (0)	Yeah we are taking it to Z1 to get it tuned on the dyno and hopefully that will help it out some. A friend of ours has one on an automatic and it was a low 12 second car. I was impressed to say the least. Hopefully the car will be vicious...im tired of just being evil, lol I hope yall all had a merry christmas! __________________

12-27-2006, 10:45 AM	#34
RTZCeli aka RTZproduction Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: San Jose/San Leandro, CA Posts: 4,748 iTrader: (4)	R u kidding me? Much respect if you take him out maan... I would love to have a copy of this if there's anyone recording it. __________________

12-27-2006, 10:53 AM	#35
youngxlos GT2860RS Inside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Lorton, VA Posts: 6,579 iTrader: (36)	i didn't read the hole thread, but on a 00 or 01 model with bolts on, we can beat or be even with 350z. here are some videos of Dan his mods are Intake, header, exhaust, power fc, and ported throttle body and port match manifold. Click here to see Video __________________ 2ZZ-GTE in the works

12-27-2006, 11:27 AM	#36
lVlemphizStylez Retired... Join Date: May 2006 Location: Miami/Tallahassee, FL Posts: 6,702 iTrader: (0)	not to take your thunder dude..but the red Z he ran in the beginning (which is all I watched before i shut down the video)...Trapped 100 (trap of a stock Z about) and he trapped 99..Not only does he have a higher trap than the GTS, but if he knew how to drive the damn thing he would have ran anywhere from 13.8-13.6 second quarter mile with that trap on RWD..More importantly, the topic at hand is about a LESS modified 04 GTS (sans PFC and DR's) and a MORE modified 350z (not stock, but I/E)...needless to say what this outcome would be __________________ 1998 LS Integra - b18c swap, b16 transmission, CTR cams, milled head, Crome Pro, SC61, Revhard Mani, Johnny Racecar FMIC, walbro, RC 650's, self tuned...STOLEN!! = ( 2003 Neon SRT4 - AGP Zeta 3.0, DiabloSport Predator, 650cc's, home made return line, walbro, MPx FMIC, 5 layer headgasket, brian crower 2mm+ valves, self tuned...hmm soon to be corn fed. Let's see how long it lasts

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